Drop charts/Level 30 techniques - Revision history

Thunder: /* Drop rates */

2025-07-29T06:44:59Z

Drop rates

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	# (During [[Easter event\|Easter]], [[Anniversary event\|Anniversary]], [[Halloween event\|Halloween]], or [[Christmas event\|Christmas]] [[events]]) The [[Tools#Event_items\|Event Item]] roll fails (variable per event item).		# (During [[Easter event\|Easter]], [[Anniversary event\|Anniversary]], [[Halloween event\|Halloween]], or [[Christmas event\|Christmas]] [[events]]) The [[Tools#Event_items\|Event Item]] roll fails (variable per event item).
	# The [[Music disks\|Music disk]] roll fails (<code>1/600</code> from any monster).		# The [[Music disks\|Music disk]] roll fails (<code>1/600</code> from any monster).
	# The roll between {{Meseta}}, a [[Tools\|Tool]], or the monster's [[Item drops#Set drops\|set drop]] is a Tool (<code>1/3</code>).		# The roll between {{Meseta}}, a [[Tools\|Tool]], or the monster's [[Item drops#Set drops\|set drop]] is determined to be a Tool (<code>1/3</code>).

	Next, the Tool is a Technique Disk, is an eligible attack Technique on this specific floor, and is level 30:		Next, the Tool is a Technique Disk, is an eligible attack Technique on this specific floor, and is level 30:

Thunder: global estimate changed 1/500,000 -> 1/800,000 with some math on global kill count (accounting for enemy DAR) and estimating that non-set item boxes opened are somewhere between: conservatively equal to 1/3 total enemies killed (1/785k global rate) or ((probably overestimated to be safe)) up to 3x total enemies killed (1/916k global rate)

2024-11-06T19:11:02Z

global estimate changed 1/500,000 -> 1/800,000 with some math on global kill count (accounting for enemy DAR) and estimating that non-set item boxes opened are somewhere between: conservatively equal to 1/3 total enemies killed (1/785k global rate) or ((probably overestimated to be safe)) up to 3x total enemies killed (1/916k global rate)

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	Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas.		Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas.

	In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a {{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a {{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11%\|10%}} chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30. On average across all drops generated that can potentially be a technique, the drop rate for a level 30 technique is 1/~~500~~,000.		In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a {{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a {{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11%\|10%}} chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30.

			On average across all drops generated that can potentially be a technique, the drop rate for a level 30 technique is approximately 1/800,000.
	==Drop charts==		==Drop charts==
	===Offensive techniques===		===Offensive techniques===

Thunder: /* Drop rates */ corrections to monster drop rates now that event items do not supersede RDR rolls. general reworking and linking

2024-11-06T18:34:15Z

Drop rates: corrections to monster drop rates now that event items do not supersede RDR rolls. general reworking and linking

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	==Drop rates==		==Drop rates==

	In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]]:		In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]] on a specific floor:

	# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools\|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the 2nd and 3rd roll).		# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools\|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the 2nd and 3rd roll).
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	# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).		# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).
	# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).		# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).
	# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance in the ~~area~~ where the level 30 technique is available).		# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance on the floor where the level 30 technique is available).
	# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).		# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).

			In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from a [[Monsters\|Monster]] on a specific floor, the following rolls must occur:

			First, an item is dropped and is a Tool:

			# The [[Drop anything rate]] roll succeeds (variable per enemy).
			# The [[Rare drop rate]] roll {{Note\|Very high RDR (1/1.14, 1/2, 1/3.2, 1/4, 1/8) rare enemy drops are not negligible and affect the final rate significantly\|fails}} (variable per enemy per [[Section IDs\|Section ID]]).
			# (During [[Easter event\|Easter]], [[Anniversary event\|Anniversary]], [[Halloween event\|Halloween]], or [[Christmas event\|Christmas]] [[events]]) The [[Tools#Event_items\|Event Item]] roll fails (variable per event item).
			# The [[Music disks\|Music disk]] roll fails (<code>1/600</code> from any monster).
			# The roll between {{Meseta}}, a [[Tools\|Tool]], or the monster's [[Item drops#Set drops\|set drop]] is a Tool (<code>1/3</code>).

			Next, the Tool is a Technique Disk, is an eligible attack Technique on this specific floor, and is level 30:

	~~In order to estimate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from a [[Monsters\|Monster]], first assume the following negligible* rolls fail:~~
	* (During Easter, Anniversary, Halloween, or Christmas events) The [[Tools#Event_items\|Event Item]] roll fails.
	* The [[Music disks\|Music disk]] roll fails.
	* After the [[Drop anything rate]] roll succeeds, the [[Rare drop rate]] roll {{Note\|Very high RDR (1/1.14, 1/2, 1/3.2, 1/4, 1/8) rare enemy drops are not negligible and affect the final rate significantly\|fails*}}.
	~~Next, the following rolls must be successful:~~
	~~# The Drop anything rate roll must be successful to drop an item (DAR% chance. Variable per enemy).~~
	~~# The item must roll as a Tool (approximately {{Note\|1/3. Equal chances for Tool, Meseta, or the Monster's Set drop type\|33.33%}} chance).~~
	# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).		# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).
	# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie or Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance in the ~~area~~ where the level 30 technique is available).		# The Technique Disk must roll as this attack technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie or Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance on the specific floor where the level 30 attack technique is available).
	# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).		# The Technique Disk must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).


			The final rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box on the floor.

			Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the approximate rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster on the floor.

	~~See [[Techniques#Technique%20disks%20drop%20table\|Technique disks drop table]] for~~ a ~~comprehensive view of technique and technique disk level distribution~~.		Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate.

			: ''See also: [[Techniques#Technique%20disks%20drop%20table\|Technique disks drop table]] and [[item drops]].

	After multiplying the above rates together, the combined final rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box in the area. Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the approximate rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster in the area. Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate.
	{{Techs}}		{{Techs}}
	{{Guides}}		{{Guides}}
	[[Category:Guides]]		[[Category:Guides]]

DM 경호: /* Drop rates */ Included item box rare drop roll

2024-07-01T12:07:55Z

Drop rates: Included item box rare drop roll

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	In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]]:		In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]]:

	# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools\|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the ~~next~~ roll).		# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools\|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the 2nd and 3rd roll).
			# The Item box fails to roll its designated rare drop.
	# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).		# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).
	# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).		# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).

Thunder: /* Drop rates */ details for monster drop rate assumptions, better set item box example

2024-03-12T19:57:04Z

Drop rates: details for monster drop rate assumptions, better set item box example

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	==Drop rates==		==Drop rates==

	~~For~~ an [[Item box]] ~~to drop a level 30 attack technique~~:		In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]]:

	# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type (ex: [[~~Phantasmal World 2~~]] ~~has 5~~ Box (Moon Atomizer) ~~in Mountain~~. ~~[[Towards~~ the ~~Future]] has 4~~ Box (~~Weapon~~) ~~in Forest 2~~).		# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools\|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the next roll).
	# The Item box must roll to drop a ~~[[Tools\|~~Tool]] ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).		# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).
	# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).		# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).
	# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance in the area where the level 30 technique is available).		# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance in the area where the level 30 technique is available).
	# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).		# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).

	~~For~~ a [[Monsters\|Monster]] ~~to drop a level 30 attack technique~~:
	# The [[Drop anything rate]] roll must be successful to drop an item (DAR% chance. Variable per enemy).		In order to estimate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from a [[Monsters\|Monster]], first assume the following negligible* rolls fail:
			* (During Easter, Anniversary, Halloween, or Christmas events) The [[Tools#Event_items\|Event Item]] roll fails.
			* The [[Music disks\|Music disk]] roll fails.
			* After the [[Drop anything rate]] roll succeeds, the [[Rare drop rate]] roll {{Note\|Very high RDR (1/1.14, 1/2, 1/3.2, 1/4, 1/8) rare enemy drops are not negligible and affect the final rate significantly\|fails*}}.
			Next, the following rolls must be successful:
			# The Drop anything rate roll must be successful to drop an item (DAR% chance. Variable per enemy).
	# The item must roll as a Tool (approximately {{Note\|1/3. Equal chances for Tool, Meseta, or the Monster's Set drop type\|33.33%}} chance).		# The item must roll as a Tool (approximately {{Note\|1/3. Equal chances for Tool, Meseta, or the Monster's Set drop type\|33.33%}} chance).
	# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).		# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).
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	See [[Techniques#Technique%20disks%20drop%20table\|Technique disks drop table]] for a comprehensive view of technique and technique disk level distribution.		See [[Techniques#Technique%20disks%20drop%20table\|Technique disks drop table]] for a comprehensive view of technique and technique disk level distribution.

	~~With all modifiers included~~, the rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box in the area. Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster in the area. Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate.
			After multiplying the above rates together, the combined final rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box in the area. Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the approximate rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster in the area. Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate.
	{{Techs}}		{{Techs}}
	{{Guides}}		{{Guides}}
	[[Category:Guides]]		[[Category:Guides]]

Matt: Added rough ballpark number at the top of page (1/500,000) - feel free to change this specific number if it doesn't feel like a good average

2024-03-10T19:51:58Z

Added rough ballpark number at the top of page (1/500,000) - feel free to change this specific number if it doesn't feel like a good average

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	Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas.		Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas.

	In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a {{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a {{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11%\|10%}} chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30.		In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a {{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a {{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11%\|10%}} chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30. On average across all drops generated that can potentially be a technique, the drop rate for a level 30 technique is 1/500,000.
	==Drop charts==		==Drop charts==
	===Offensive techniques===		===Offensive techniques===

Matt: re-organisation

2024-03-10T16:01:43Z

re-organisation

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 In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a {{Note|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%|0.1%}} chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a {{Note|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11%|10%}} chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30.
 ==Drop charts==
 ===Offensive techniques===
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 |}
 {{Techs}}
 {{Guides}}
 [[Category:Guides]]

Matt: Correct missing bottom border on support tech table

2024-03-10T16:00:40Z

Correct missing bottom border on support tech table

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	\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Shifta}}<br>{{Deband}}<br>{{Jellen}}<br>{{Zalure}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Shifta}}<br>{{Deband}}<br>{{Jellen}}<br>{{Zalure}}
	~~\|rowspan=4~~\|[[Ruins]]		\|[[Ruins]]
	~~\|rowspan=4~~\|[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]];<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]]		\|[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]];<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]]
	~~\|rowspan=4~~\|[[Subterranean Desert]]		\|[[Subterranean Desert]]
	\|}		\|}

Thunder: Corrected attack tech rate estimate and full breakdown on the rates

2024-03-10T01:06:39Z

Corrected attack tech rate estimate and full breakdown on the rates

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 Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas.
-In the areas where the level 30 technique drops, there is a 0.1% chance of the technique dropping at any level and a 10% chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30. Combined with other drop rate modifiers, this puts the chance of a level 30 technique drop at 1/500,000.
+In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a {{Note|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%|0.1%}} chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a {{Note|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11%|10%}} chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30.
 ==Drop charts==
 ===Offensive techniques===

Sundark at 16:57, 8 March 2024

2024-03-08T16:57:49Z

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	===Offensive techniques===		===Offensive techniques===
	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;"		{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;"
	\|+		!rowspan="2"\|Technique
	!~~Technique~~		!rowspan="1" colspan="3"\|Area(s)
	!Episode 1		\|-
	!Episode 2		!rowspan="1"\|Episode 1
	!Episode 4		!rowspan="1"\|Episode 2
			!rowspan="1"\|Episode 4
	\|-		\|-
	! \|\| \|\| \|\|		! \|\| \|\| \|\|
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Foie}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Foie}}
	\|[[Ruins 2]]		\|[[Ruins 2]]
	\|[[VR Temple Alpha]]		\|[[VR Temple Alpha]]
	\| -		\| -
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Barta}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Barta}}
	\|[[Mine 1]]		\|[[Mine 1]]
	\|[[VR Spaceship Beta]]		\|[[VR Spaceship Beta]]
	\|[[Crater (Western Route)]]		\|[[Crater (Western Route)]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Zonde}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Zonde}}
	\|[[Mine 2]]		\|[[Mine 2]]
	\|[[Mountain Area]]		\|[[Mountain Area]]
	\|[[Crater Interior]]		\|[[Crater Interior]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Gifoie}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Gifoie}}
	\|[[Ruins 1]]		\|[[Ruins 1]]
	\|[[VR Temple Beta]]		\|[[VR Temple Beta]]
	\| -		\| -
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Gibarta}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Gibarta}}
	\|[[Cave 3]]		\|[[Cave 3]]
	\|[[Jungle Area (North)]]		\|[[Jungle Area (North)]]
	\|[[Crater (Southern Route)]]		\|[[Crater (Southern Route)]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Gizonde}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Gizonde}}
	\|[[Ruins 1]]		\|[[Ruins 1]]
	\|[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]]		\|[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]]
	\|[[Subterranean Desert 1]]		\|[[Subterranean Desert 1]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Rafoie}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Rafoie}}
	\|[[Mine 2]]		\|[[Mine 2]]
	\|[[VR Spaceship Alpha]]		\|[[VR Spaceship Alpha]]
	\|[[Crater (Eastern Route)]]		\|[[Crater (Eastern Route)]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Rabarta}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Rabarta}}
	\|[[Mine 1]]		\|[[Mine 1]]
	\|[[Jungle Area (East)]]		\|[[Jungle Area (East)]]
	\|[[Crater (Northern Route)]]		\|[[Crater (Northern Route)]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left; white-space:nowrap; min-width:80px"\|{{Razonde}}		\|style="text-align:left; white-space:nowrap; min-width:80px"\|{{Razonde}}
	\|[[Ruins 2]]		\|[[Ruins 2]]
	\|[[Seabed Upper Levels]]		\|[[Seabed Upper Levels]]
	\|[[Subterranean Desert 2]]		\|[[Subterranean Desert 2]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Grants}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Grants}}
	\|[[Ruins 3]]		\|[[Ruins 3]]
	\|[[Seabed Lower Levels]];<br>[[Control Tower]]		\|[[Seabed Lower Levels]];<br>[[Control Tower]]
	\|[[Subterranean Desert 3]]		\|[[Subterranean Desert 3]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Megid}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Megid}}
	\| -		\| -
	\|[[Seabed Lower Levels]];<br>[[Control Tower]]		\|[[Seabed Lower Levels]];<br>[[Control Tower]]
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	===Recovery and Support techniques===		===Recovery and Support techniques===
	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;"		{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;"
	\|+		!rowspan="2"\|Techniques
	!~~Technique~~		!rowspan="1" colspan="3"\|Area(s)
	!Episode 1		\|-
	!Episode 2		!rowspan="1"\|Episode 1
	!Episode 4		!rowspan="1"\|Episode 2
			!rowspan="1"\|Episode 4
	\|-		\|-
	! \|\| \|\| \|\|		! \|\| \|\| \|\|
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Resta}}<br>{{Anti}} (7)		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Resta}}<br>{{Anti}} (7)
	\|[[Cave 3]];<br>[[Mine]];<br>[[Ruins]]		\|[[Cave 3]];<br>[[Mine]];<br>[[Ruins]]
	\|[[Central Control Area]] (All);<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]]		\|[[Central Control Area]] (All);<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]]
	\|[[Crater]] ([[Crater#Southern Route\|South]], [[Crater#Northern Route\|North]], [[Crater#Interior\|Interior]]);<br>[[Subterranean Desert]]		\|[[Crater]] ([[Crater#Southern Route\|South]], [[Crater#Northern Route\|North]], [[Crater#Interior\|Interior]]);<br>[[Subterranean Desert]]
	\|-		\|-
	!style="text-align:left"\|{{Shifta}}<br>{{Deband}}<br>{{Jellen}}<br>{{Zalure}}		\|style="text-align:left"\|{{Shifta}}<br>{{Deband}}<br>{{Jellen}}<br>{{Zalure}}
	\|rowspan=4\|[[Ruins]]		\|rowspan=4\|[[Ruins]]
	\|rowspan=4\|[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]];<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]]		\|rowspan=4\|[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]];<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]]

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	==Drop rates==		==Drop rates==

	In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]]:		In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]] on a specific floor:

	# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools\|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the 2nd and 3rd roll).		# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools\|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the 2nd and 3rd roll).
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	# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).		# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note\|10/100\|10%}} chance).
	# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).		# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).
	# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance in the ~~area~~ where the level 30 technique is available).		# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance on the floor where the level 30 technique is available).
	# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).		# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).

			In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from a [[Monsters\|Monster]] on a specific floor, the following rolls must occur:

			First, an item is dropped and is a Tool:

			# The [[Drop anything rate]] roll succeeds (variable per enemy).
			# The [[Rare drop rate]] roll {{Note\|Very high RDR (1/1.14, 1/2, 1/3.2, 1/4, 1/8) rare enemy drops are not negligible and affect the final rate significantly\|fails}} (variable per enemy per [[Section IDs\|Section ID]]).
			# (During [[Easter event\|Easter]], [[Anniversary event\|Anniversary]], [[Halloween event\|Halloween]], or [[Christmas event\|Christmas]] [[events]]) The [[Tools#Event_items\|Event Item]] roll fails (variable per event item).
			# The [[Music disks\|Music disk]] roll fails (<code>1/600</code> from any monster).
			# The roll between {{Meseta}}, a [[Tools\|Tool]], or the monster's [[Item drops#Set drops\|set drop]] is a Tool (<code>1/3</code>).

			Next, the Tool is a Technique Disk, is an eligible attack Technique on this specific floor, and is level 30:

	~~In order to estimate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from a [[Monsters\|Monster]], first assume the following negligible* rolls fail:~~
	* (During Easter, Anniversary, Halloween, or Christmas events) The [[Tools#Event_items\|Event Item]] roll fails.
	* The [[Music disks\|Music disk]] roll fails.
	* After the [[Drop anything rate]] roll succeeds, the [[Rare drop rate]] roll {{Note\|Very high RDR (1/1.14, 1/2, 1/3.2, 1/4, 1/8) rare enemy drops are not negligible and affect the final rate significantly\|fails*}}.
	~~Next, the following rolls must be successful:~~
	~~# The Drop anything rate roll must be successful to drop an item (DAR% chance. Variable per enemy).~~
	~~# The item must roll as a Tool (approximately {{Note\|1/3. Equal chances for Tool, Meseta, or the Monster's Set drop type\|33.33%}} chance).~~
	# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).		# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note\|1000/10000\|10%}} chance).
	# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie or Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance in the ~~area~~ where the level 30 technique is available).		# The Technique Disk must roll as this attack technique ({{Note\|1/1000. For Rafoie or Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%\|0.1%}} chance on the specific floor where the level 30 attack technique is available).
	# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).		# The Technique Disk must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note\|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance\|10%}} chance).


			The final rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box on the floor.

			Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the approximate rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster on the floor.

	~~See [[Techniques#Technique%20disks%20drop%20table\|Technique disks drop table]] for~~ a ~~comprehensive view of technique and technique disk level distribution~~.		Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate.

			: ''See also: [[Techniques#Technique%20disks%20drop%20table\|Technique disks drop table]] and [[item drops]].

	After multiplying the above rates together, the combined final rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box in the area. Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the approximate rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster in the area. Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate.
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