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<small><div class="noexcerpt">< Return to [[Divine Punishment]]</div></small>
<small><div class="noexcerpt">< Return to [[Divine Punishment]]</div></small>
==Is it Worth it?==
<small><div class="noexcerpt">< Return to [[Striker Unit]]</div></small>
Is it worth making a "pure" (or at least high) {{MIND}} {{Mag|rare|Striker Unit}}?  
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==Analysis==
'''Q'''. Is it worth making a "pure"/high {{MIND}} {{Mag|rare|Striker Unit}}?  


Yes, sort of. It can be, if:
'''A'''. Yes, sort of. It can be, if:
# You have a second {{POW}}/{{DEX}} [[Mags|mag]] for other uses;
# You have a second {{POW}}/{{DEX}} [[Mags|mag]] for other uses;
# You are '''exclusively''' using Striker Unit for Divine Punishment;
# You are '''exclusively''' using Striker Unit for Divine Punishment;
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* You have specific solo hunts planned that you intend to purely DP through for a long time.
* You have specific solo hunts planned that you intend to purely DP through for a long time.


If Striker Unit is your '''only mag''', probably make it [[RAmarl]]'s suggested mag stats on her [[RAmarl/Guide|guide page]] (5/149/46/0). This lets you access all of the important weaponry on any [[Ranger]] and deal physical damage at reasonably low levels, allows for "minimum" (it's not too far from maximum) effectiveness DP damage output, and also allows a level 200 RAmarl with Min-Max build to have fully maximized DP damage output while maintaining max [[ATP]] and [[ATA]], and 2 free [[Units|unit]] slots.  
'''''HOWEVER''''', if Striker Unit is your '''only mag''', probably make it [[RAmarl]]'s suggested mag stats on her [[RAmarl/Guide|guide page]] (5/149/46/0). This lets you access all of the important weaponry on any [[Ranger]] and deal physical damage at reasonably low levels, allows for "minimum" (it's not too far from maximum) effectiveness DP damage output, and also allows a level 200 RAmarl with Min-Max build to have fully maximized DP damage output while maintaining max [[ATP]] and [[ATA]], and 2 free [[Units|unit]] slots.  
 
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==Pros & Cons==
==Pros & Cons==
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* Max DP output as early as '''level 105'''.
* Max DP output as early as '''level 105'''.
: ''Note: Levels assume 5/7/34/154 mag listed below, Heavenly units, and completed Important Stats Only [[Tools#Materials|materials]] used (0 {{Tool|Mind Material|Mind Materials}}).''
: ''Note: Levels assume 5/7/34/154 mag listed below, Heavenly units, and completed Important Stats Only [[Tools#Materials|materials]] used (0 {{Tool|Mind Material|Mind Materials}}).''
===Cons===
* Low ATP and ATA throughout leveling; physical damage and your ability to use other weapons will be very weak until very high levels.
* A lot of MST is wasted as overcapped points at very high levels.


===Neutral===
===Neutral===
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* [[Handguns|Handgun]] animation (especially RAmarl's) is already so fast. Is it really worth investing so heavily, and losing so heavily on ATP and ATA that are very important for other weapons / other types of content and gameplay, just to save around two handgun attacks per wave?  
* [[Handguns|Handgun]] animation (especially RAmarl's) is already so fast. Is it really worth investing so heavily, and losing so heavily on ATP and ATA that are very important for other weapons / other types of content and gameplay, just to save around two handgun attacks per wave?  
** DP solo episode 4 strats are typically understood to be easy and low focus anyway, and in multiplayer it's typically used in conjunction with other player(s) DP or [[Force|FO]] [[Techniques|techs]]. Outside of Time Attack, DP is not some precisely calculated attack method--it's just a "spam until they're dead" kind of thing--so being slightly slower on killing things isn't a big deal or very noticeable.  
** DP solo episode 4 strats are typically understood to be easy and low focus anyway, and in multiplayer it's typically used in conjunction with other player(s) DP or [[Force|FO]] [[Techniques|techs]]. Outside of Time Attack, DP is not some precisely calculated attack method--it's just a "spam until they're dead" kind of thing--so being slightly slower on killing things isn't a big deal or very noticeable.  
===Cons===
* Low ATP and ATA throughout leveling; physical damage and your ability to use other weapons will be very weak until very high levels.
* A lot of MST is wasted as overcapped points at very high levels.


===Other thoughts===
===Other thoughts===
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* If there are example quests that are high efficiency to 100% DP through, then the high MIND Striker Unit is more appealing. I can't think of any though--there seems to always be some spawns that are inefficient to purely DP through, but are much easier to purely physically damage through or Demon's -> damage (or maybe DP) cleanup.
* If there are example quests that are high efficiency to 100% DP through, then the high MIND Striker Unit is more appealing. I can't think of any though--there seems to always be some spawns that are inefficient to purely DP through, but are much easier to purely physically damage through or Demon's -> damage (or maybe DP) cleanup.


==Example for amount of attacks to kill==
==MST Breakpoints for Shots-to-Kill Examples==
For the example of Ultimate One Person Mode, 40 [[ELT]] crater [[Yowie]] with 2040 HP (400 base damage. +5MST = +1 base damage):
Divine Punishment deals 400 base damage, and gains 1 point of damage per 5 points of MST.
* 0mst ([[Racast]]/[[Racaseal]]) = 400 damage before ELT -> 240dmg = '''9'''  shots to kill
* 279mst ([[Ramar]] min at level 80) = 455 damage before ELT -> 273dmg = '''8''' shots to kill
* 351mst (Ramarl min at level 80) = 470 damage before ELT -> 282dmg = '''8''' shots to kill
* 665mst (Ramar max) = 533 before ELT -> 319dmg = '''7''' shots to kill
* 1031mst (Ramarl max) = 606 before ELT -> 363dmg = '''6''' shots to kill


High MIND investment on mag + Important Stats Only materials:
Assuming Ultimate difficulty, One Person mode, attacking a [[Yowie]] in [[Crater]], which has 2040 HP and 40 [[ELT]]:
* 890mst (ramarl level 80) = 578 before ELT -> 346dmg = '''6''' shots to kill
* {{Note|RAcast or RAcaseal|0 MST}}: 400 damage before ELT -> 240dmg = '''9'''  shots to kill
* {{Note|RAmar minimum at level 80|279 MST}}: 455 damage before ELT -> 273dmg = '''8''' shots to kill
* {{Note|RAmarl minimum at level 80|351 MST}}: 470 damage before ELT -> 282dmg = '''8''' shots to kill
* {{Note|RAmar maximum|665 MST}}: 533 damage before ELT -> 319dmg = '''7''' shots to kill
* {{Note|RAmarl maximum|1031 MST}}: 606 damage before ELT -> 363dmg = '''6''' shots to kill
 
Now, given high MIND investment on Mag + Important Stats Only materials:
* {{Note|RAmarl level 80|890 MST}}: 578 damage before ELT -> 346dmg = '''6''' shots to kill
** ('''Exclusively''' for maxing DP uses; sacrifices a lot of ATP and ATA, making other weapons far less effective)
** ('''Exclusively''' for maxing DP uses; sacrifices a lot of ATP and ATA, making other weapons far less effective)


==RAmarl==
==Mag Feeding Guides/Examples==
While the {{Estlla}} Photon Blast from a first evolution Mag by a [[Ranger]] can be preferable for use in an [[Saint-Milion|Episode 4 boss]] second phase (cave) strategy, Divine Punishment is already very effective at damaging the crystals evenly, and the feeding tables are more of a pain on the Ranger-evolved first and second mag evolutions. It is also slower to level these evolutions, and more difficult to reach the required stats for {{DEX}} > {{POW}} > {{MIND}} {{Mag|Ila}} or {{Mag|Kaitabha}} ({{PSO icon|Mylla & Youlla}}M&Y PB), and {{Mag|Garuda}}--the {{Tool|rare|Heaven Striker Coat}} mag cell prerequisite.
 
Regardless, both plans are provided below.
 
===1. Fast and Easy [5/7/34/154] ({{Leilla}}, {{Pilla}}, {{Mylla & Youlla}})===
# '''Force''' feeds {{Tool|Antidote}} to level '''10''' = {{Mag|Vritra}}, {{PSO icon|Leilla}}Leilla PB, [5/1/4/0]
# {{PSO icon|Tool}}Antidote to level '''35''' = {{Mag|Ashvinau}}, {{PSO icon|Pilla}}Pilla PB, [5/7/23/0]
# {{Tool|Antiparalysis}} to level '''49''' = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Ashvinau [5/7/33/3]
# '''Hunter''' {{TypeA}} <small>({{DEX}} > {{POW}} > {{MIND}})</small> feeds final {{PSO icon|Tool}}Antiparalysis to level '''50''' = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Ila, {{PSO icon|Mylla & Youlla}}Mylla & Youlla PB, [5/7/34/4]
# '''Hunter'''/'''Force''' {{TypeB}} <small>({{DEX}} > {{POW}} > {{MIND}})</small> feeds any single item ({{Fluid|Difluid}} is fine) = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Garuda, [5/7/34/4]
# Use {{PSO icon|Tool}}Heaven Striker Coat = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Striker Unit, [5/7/34/4]
# {{PSO icon|Tool}}Difluids to level '''200''' = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Striker Unit, [5/7/34/154]
# {{Tool|Sol Atomizer|Sol Atomizers}} (or {{Tool|Moon Atomizer|Moon Atomizers}}) to Synchro 120
 
===2. Slow, but with {{PSO icon|Estlla}}Estlla PB [5/15/16/164] ({{PSO icon|Estlla}}Estlla, {{PSO icon|Pilla}}Pilla, {{PSO icon|Mylla & Youlla}}Mylla & Youlla)===
# '''Ranger''' feeds {{Fluid|Monofluid}} to level '''10''' = {{Mag|Kalki}}, {{PSO icon|Estlla}}Estlla PB, [5/0/0/5]
# Alternate between {{Fluid|Trifluid|Trifluids}} until just before {{DEF}} levels up, followed by MANY {{PSO icon|Tool}}Antiparalysis to lower DEF. Repeat to level '''35''' = {{Mag|Mitra}}, {{PSO icon|Pilla}}Pilla PB, [5/0/16/14]
# {{Mate|Monomate|Monomates}} to level '''49''' - {{PSO icon|Mag}}Mitra, [5/14/16/14]
# '''Ranger''' {{TypeB}} <small>({{DEX}} ≥ {{POW}} > {{MIND}})</small> feeds final {{PSO icon|Mate}}Monomate to level '''50''' = {{Mag|Kaitabha}}, {{PSO icon|Mylla & Youlla}}Mylla & Youlla PB, [5/15/16/14]
# '''Hunter'''/'''Force''' {{TypeB}} <small>({{DEX}} > {{POW}} > {{MIND}})</small> feeds any single item ({{PSO icon|Fluid}}Difluid is fine) = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Garuda, [5/15/16/14]
# Use {{PSO icon|Tool}}Heaven Striker Coat = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Striker Unit, [5/15/16/14]
# {{PSO icon|Fluid}}Difluids to level '''200''' = {{PSO icon|Mag}}Striker Unit, [5/15/16/164]
 
For comparison, we can check the Feeding Cycles, Minutes, and Meseta used between builds:
* '''Plan 1 total''': 291 Feeding Cycles, 1018.5 Minutes, 325,420 Meseta
* '''Plan 2 total''': 413 Feeding Cycles, 1445.5 Minutes, 401,110 Meseta
 
<small>(''Mag plans created with [https://www.pioneer2.net/community/threads/magatama-a-modern-mag-planner-calculator-beta-9.4552/ Magatama]'')</small>
 
==RAmarl Builds and Stat Progression==
<!--(this can be integrated into the RAmarl/Guide page eventually, or maybe Divine Punishment guide page. people always ask what stats to put on Striker Unit. this type of early stat cap level breakpoints is what I'd like to include for a detailed section of the builds table on each class guide page).-->
<!--(this can be integrated into the RAmarl/Guide page eventually, or maybe Divine Punishment guide page. people always ask what stats to put on Striker Unit. this type of early stat cap level breakpoints is what I'd like to include for a detailed section of the builds table on each class guide page).-->


===Important Stats Only + quick high MIND Striker Unit mag===
===Important Stats Only Material Plan, Fast and Easy MIND Striker Unit===
'''5/7/34/154''' Striker Unit mag.  
'''5/7/34/154''' Striker Unit mag.  


(Min-Max materials will only be slightly quicker to max MST, with an additional 39 Mind materials = 78 MST. around 10-25 levels in early Ultimate when it is very quick to level up already)
(Min-Max materials will only be slightly quicker to max MST, with an additional 39 Mind materials = 78 MST. around 10-25 levels in early Ultimate when it is very quick to level up already)


* by level '''14''', equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) ['''572 MST''']  
* by level '''14''', equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) ['''572 MST''']:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=14&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=56&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=14&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=56&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''42''', equip HS ['''695 MST''']:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=42&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
* by level '''42''', equip HS ['''695 MST''']  
* by level '''80''', equip HS ['''890 MST''']:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=80&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=55 Plan link]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=42&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''105''', equip HS ['''1031 MST''' (RAmarl max)]:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=105&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=55&unit4=55 Plan link]
* by level '''80''', equip HS ['''890 MST''']  
* by level '''130''', ATA+MST capped (Note that she only has 830 ATP at this point, -315 from her cap--Demon's is still effective at least) ['''1031 MST''' (RAmarl max)]:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=130&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=54 Plan link]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=80&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=55
* by level '''199''' with {{Unit|rare|V101}}, {{Unit|rare|Adept}} (potentially prohibitively expensive), and 2x {{Unit|rare|Heavenly/Power|Heavenly/Powers}} she can barely cap ATP while maintaining capped ATA and far overcapped MST (+216 MST overcapped) ['''1031 MST''', capped]:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=199&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=49&unit2=4e&unit3=54&unit4=54 Plan link]
* by level '''105''', equip HS ['''1031 MST''', capped]  
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=105&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=55&unit4=55
* by level '''130''', ATA+MST capped (she only has 830 ATP at this point, -315 from her cap. Demons is still effective at least) ['''1031 MST''', capped]  
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=130&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=54
 
* (requires an expensive {{Unit|rare|Adept}}) by level '''199''' with {{Unit|rare|V101}}, Adept, and 2x {{Unit|rare|Heavenly/Power|Heavenly/Powers}} she can barely cap ATP while maintaining capped ATA and far overcapped MST (+216 MST overcapped) ['''1031 MST''', capped]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=199&mdef=5&mpow=7&mdex=34&mmind=154&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=49&unit2=4e&unit3=54&unit4=54
** sorta irrelevant; at this point you should be using something much closer to the current guide-suggested mag stats with more POW and DEX
** sorta irrelevant; at this point you should be using something much closer to the current guide-suggested mag stats with more POW and DEX


===Important Stats Only===
===Important Stats Only Materials Plan, RAmarl min-max Striker Unit===
'''5/149/46/0''' mag.
'''5/149/46/0''' mag.


aims to max ATP and ATA early, does not max MST, DFP, or EVP at level 200
aims to max ATP and ATA early, does not max MST, DFP, or EVP at level 200


* by level '''7''', equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) ['''231 MST''']  
* by level '''7''', equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) ['''231 MST''']:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=7&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=56&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=7&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=56&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''35''', equip  HS ['''359 MST''']:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=35&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
* by level '''35''', equip  HS ['''359 MST''']
* by level '''85''', cap ATA (without v101) ['''557 MST''']:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=85&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=35&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''139''' cap ATP+ATA ['''756 MST''']: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=139&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=54 Plan link]
* by level '''85''', cap ATA (without v101) ['''557 MST''']  
* by level '''194''' cap MST, far overcapped ATP (+151 ATP overcapped), -3.1ATA from max with V101, V801, 2 H/Minds, and Red Ring ['''1031 MST''', capped]: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=194&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c&unit3=55&unit4=55 Plan link]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=85&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''200''', ATP+ATA capped. requires 2x Heavenly/Minds to cap MST ['''1031 MST''', capped]: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=200&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c&unit3=55&unit4=55 Plan link]
* by level '''139''' cap ATP+ATA ['''756 MST''']  
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=139&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=54
* by level '''194''' cap MST, far overcapped ATP (+151 ATP overcapped), -3.1ATA from max with V101, V801, 2 H/Minds, and Red Ring ['''1031 MST''', capped]  
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=194&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c&unit3=55&unit4=55
* by level '''200''', ATP+ATA capped. requires 2x Heavenly/Minds to cap MST ['''1031 MST''', capped]  
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=200&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=129&mind=93&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c&unit3=55&unit4=55


===Min-Max===
===Max Stat Materials Plan, RAmarl min-max Striker Unit===
'''5/149/46/0''' mag, same as ISO.
'''5/149/46/0''' mag, same as ISO.


(aims to max ATP+ATA+MST at level 200 with 2 free unit slots and extra mats dumped into Defense)
aims to max ATP+ATA+MST at level 200 with 2 free unit slots and extra mats dumped into Defense
 
* by level '''7''', equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) ['''309 MST''']
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=7&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=56&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''35''', equip  HS ['''437 MST''']
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=35&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''85''', cap ATA (same as Important Stats Only above) ['''635 MST''']
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=85&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56
* by level '''161''', cap MST ['''1031 MST''', capped]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=161&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=55&unit3=55&unit4=55
* (requires an expensive Adept) by level '''167''', cap ATP+ATA ['''922 MST''']
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=167&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=54&unit3=4e&unit4=54
* by level '''187''', cap ATP+ATA+MST with V101, V801, Adept, Centurion/Ability, and Red Ring ['''1031 MST''', capped]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=187&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c&unit3=4e&unit4=5b
* by level '''200''', cap ATP+ATA+MST with only V101, V801, and Red Ring ['''1031 MST''', capped]
** http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=200&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c
 
==Mag Feeding Guides/Examples==
Mag plans done using the [https://www.pioneer2.net/community/threads/magatama-a-modern-mag-planner-calculator-beta-9.4552/ Magatama tool]
===Fast and Easy 5/7/34/154 ({{Leilla}}, {{Pilla}}, {{Mylla & Youlla}}===
It would be sorta nice to have Estlla PB from first evolution on a [[Ranger]] to help with an [[Saint-Milion|ep4 boss]] cave strategy, but Divine Punishment works pretty good for evenly damaging the crystals anyway, and the feeding tables are more of a pain on the RA-evolved first and second mag evos.
 
It is also slower to level them up and harder to reach required stats for DEX > POW > MIND {{Mag|Ila}} or {{Mag|Kaitabha}} (Twins PB) and {{Mag|Garuda}} ({{Tool|rare|Heaven Striker Coat}} mag cell prerequisite).
 
* {{Tool|Antidote}} to level 10 on FO (Leilla PB) - {{Mag|Vritra}} 5/1/4/0
* Antidote to level 35 (Pilla PB) - {{Mag|Ashvinau}} 5/7/23/0
* {{Tool|Antiparalysis}} to level 49 - Ashvinau 5/7/33/3
* HU ViridiaSkylyPurplenumRedriaYellowboze DEX > POW > MIND feeds final Antiparalysis to level 50 (Mylla & Youlla / Twins PB) - Ila (5/7/34/4)
* any HU/FO GreenillBluefullPinkalOranWhitill DEX > POW > MIND feeds any single item (Difluid is fine) - Garuda 5/7/34/4
* use Heaven Striker Coat - Striker Unit 5/7/34/4
** to this point: 79 Feeding Cycles, 276.5 Minutes, 15,220 {{Meseta}}
* {{Fluid|Difluid|Difluids}} to level 200 - Striker Unit 5/7/34/154
** to this point: 279 Feeding Cycles, 976.5 Minutes, 314,720 Meseta
* {{Tool|Sol Atomizer|Sol Atomizers}} (or {{Tool|Moon Atomizer|Moon Atomizers}}) to Synchro 120
** total: 291 Feeding Cycles, 1018.5 Minutes, 325,420 Meseta
 
 
===Slow but with Estlla PB 5/15/16/164 (Estlla, Pilla, Mylla&Youlla)===
for comparison, check the Feeding Cycles, Minutes, and Meseta used on this other more complicated build from another player, which DOES get Estlla:
 
* {{Fluid|Monofluid}} to level 10 on RA (Estlla PB) - Kalki 5/0/0/5
* Alternate between a few {{Fluid|Trifluid|Trifluids}} until DEF almost levels up, followed by MANY Antiparalysis to lower DEF. Repeat to level 35 (Pilla PB) - {{Mag|Mitra}} 5/0/16/14
* {{Mate|Monomate|Monomates}} to level 49 - Mitra 5/14/16/14
* RA GreenillBluefullPinkalOranWhitill DEX ≥ POW > MIND feeds final Monomate to level 50 (Mylla & Youlla / Twins PB) - {{Mag|Kaitabha}} 5/15/16/14
* any HU/FO GreenillBluefullPinkalOranWhitill DEX > POW > MIND feeds any single item (Difluid is fine) - Garuda 5/15/16/14
* use Heaven Striker Coat - Striker Unit 5/15/16/14
** to this point: 213 Feeding Cycles, 745.5 Minutes, 101,110 Meseta
* Difluids to level 200 - Striker Unit 5/15/16/164
** total: 413 Feeding Cycles, 1445.5 Minutes, 401,110 Meseta


<small>''Credit for this page and guide goes to [[User:Thunder|Thunder]]''</small>
* by level '''7''', equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) ['''309 MST''']:  [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=7&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=56&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
* by level '''35''', equip  HS ['''437 MST''']: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=35&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
* by level '''85''', cap ATA (same as Important Stats Only above) ['''635 MST''']: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=85&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=56&unit3=56&unit4=56 Plan link]
* by level '''161''', cap MST ['''1031 MST''', capped]: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=161&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=55&unit3=55&unit4=55 Plan link]
* (requires an expensive Adept) by level '''167''', cap ATP+ATA ['''922 MST''']: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=167&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&unit1=53&unit2=54&unit3=4e&unit4=54 Plan link]
* by level '''187''', cap ATP+ATA+MST with V101, V801, Adept, Centurion/Ability, and Red Ring ['''1031 MST''', capped]: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=187&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c&unit3=4e&unit4=5b Plan link]
* by level '''200''', cap ATP+ATA+MST with only V101, V801, and Red Ring ['''1031 MST''', capped]: [http://pso.ffsky.cn/tools/status_simulator/en.htm?c=ramarl&lv=200&mdef=5&mpow=149&mdex=46&pow=45&def=45&mind=132&lck=28&shield=27&unit1=49&unit2=4c Plan link]
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: <small>''Credit for this information and guide goes to [[User:Thunder|Thunder]]''</small>

Latest revision as of 20:39, 5 September 2024

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Analysis[edit | edit source]

Q. Is it worth making a "pure"/high MIND Mag icon.pngStriker Unit?

A. Yes, sort of. It can be, if:

  1. You have a second POW/DEX mag for other uses;
  2. You are exclusively using Striker Unit for Divine Punishment;
  3. And you value the amount of attacks you conserve via maximizing its output at lower levels (it can reduce required hits to kill by around 25%; from 8 attacks down to 6 in an example below).

OR

  • You have specific solo hunts planned that you intend to purely DP through for a long time.

HOWEVER, if Striker Unit is your only mag, probably make it RAmarl's suggested mag stats on her guide page (5/149/46/0). This lets you access all of the important weaponry on any Ranger and deal physical damage at reasonably low levels, allows for "minimum" (it's not too far from maximum) effectiveness DP damage output, and also allows a level 200 RAmarl with Min-Max build to have fully maximized DP damage output while maintaining max ATP and ATA, and 2 free unit slots.

Pros & Cons[edit | edit source]

Pros[edit | edit source]

  • High DP output for sub-Ultimate difficulties and Gun icon.pngHeaven Striker equippable as early as level 14 (4x Unit icon.pngHeavenly/Arms units).
  • High DP output for sub-Ultimate difficulties with Unit icon.pngHeavenly/Battle attack speed at level 42.
  • High DP output (only -141 MST from RAmarl's cap) and Heavenly/Battle attack speed at level 80.
  • Max DP output as early as level 105.
Note: Levels assume 5/7/34/154 mag listed below, Heavenly units, and completed Important Stats Only materials used (0 Tool icon.pngMind Materials).

Cons[edit | edit source]

  • Low ATP and ATA throughout leveling; physical damage and your ability to use other weapons will be very weak until very high levels.
  • A lot of MST is wasted as overcapped points at very high levels.

Neutral[edit | edit source]

  • Demon's weapons are still effective. Sword icon.pngSlicer of Fanatic ATP requirement (570 ATP) already barely achieved at level 80.
  • Handgun animation (especially RAmarl's) is already so fast. Is it really worth investing so heavily, and losing so heavily on ATP and ATA that are very important for other weapons / other types of content and gameplay, just to save around two handgun attacks per wave?
    • DP solo episode 4 strats are typically understood to be easy and low focus anyway, and in multiplayer it's typically used in conjunction with other player(s) DP or FO techs. Outside of Time Attack, DP is not some precisely calculated attack method--it's just a "spam until they're dead" kind of thing--so being slightly slower on killing things isn't a big deal or very noticeable.

Other thoughts[edit | edit source]

  • Ideally/Optimally, you could carry two mags and magswap during the quest, but I don't expect most players to want to do this sort of effort (and lose any accumulated PB gauge).
  • If there are example quests that are high efficiency to 100% DP through, then the high MIND Striker Unit is more appealing. I can't think of any though--there seems to always be some spawns that are inefficient to purely DP through, but are much easier to purely physically damage through or Demon's -> damage (or maybe DP) cleanup.

MST Breakpoints for Shots-to-Kill Examples[edit | edit source]

Divine Punishment deals 400 base damage, and gains 1 point of damage per 5 points of MST.

Assuming Ultimate difficulty, One Person mode, attacking a Yowie in Crater, which has 2040 HP and 40 ELT:

  • 0 MST: 400 damage before ELT -> 240dmg = 9 shots to kill
  • 279 MST: 455 damage before ELT -> 273dmg = 8 shots to kill
  • 351 MST: 470 damage before ELT -> 282dmg = 8 shots to kill
  • 665 MST: 533 damage before ELT -> 319dmg = 7 shots to kill
  • 1031 MST: 606 damage before ELT -> 363dmg = 6 shots to kill

Now, given high MIND investment on Mag + Important Stats Only materials:

  • 890 MST: 578 damage before ELT -> 346dmg = 6 shots to kill
    • (Exclusively for maxing DP uses; sacrifices a lot of ATP and ATA, making other weapons far less effective)

Mag Feeding Guides/Examples[edit | edit source]

While the Estlla.pngEstlla Photon Blast from a first evolution Mag by a Ranger can be preferable for use in an Episode 4 boss second phase (cave) strategy, Divine Punishment is already very effective at damaging the crystals evenly, and the feeding tables are more of a pain on the Ranger-evolved first and second mag evolutions. It is also slower to level these evolutions, and more difficult to reach the required stats for DEX > POW > MIND Mag icon.pngIla or Mag icon.pngKaitabha (Mylla & Youlla.pngM&Y PB), and Mag icon.pngGaruda--the Tool icon.pngHeaven Striker Coat mag cell prerequisite.

Regardless, both plans are provided below.

1. Fast and Easy [5/7/34/154] (Leilla.pngLeilla, Pilla.pngPilla, Mylla & Youlla.pngMylla & Youlla)[edit | edit source]

  1. Force feeds Tool icon.pngAntidote to level 10 = Mag icon.pngVritra, Leilla.pngLeilla PB, [5/1/4/0]
  2. Tool icon.pngAntidote to level 35 = Mag icon.pngAshvinau, Pilla.pngPilla PB, [5/7/23/0]
  3. Tool icon.pngAntiparalysis to level 49 = Mag icon.pngAshvinau [5/7/33/3]
  4. Hunter ViridiaSkylyPurplenumRedriaYellowboze (DEX > POW > MIND) feeds final Tool icon.pngAntiparalysis to level 50 = Mag icon.pngIla, Mylla & Youlla.pngMylla & Youlla PB, [5/7/34/4]
  5. Hunter/Force GreenillBluefullPinkalOranWhitill (DEX > POW > MIND) feeds any single item (Fluid icon.pngDifluid is fine) = Mag icon.pngGaruda, [5/7/34/4]
  6. Use Tool icon.pngHeaven Striker Coat = Mag icon.pngStriker Unit, [5/7/34/4]
  7. Tool icon.pngDifluids to level 200 = Mag icon.pngStriker Unit, [5/7/34/154]
  8. Tool icon.pngSol Atomizers (or Tool icon.pngMoon Atomizers) to Synchro 120

2. Slow, but with Estlla.pngEstlla PB [5/15/16/164] (Estlla.pngEstlla, Pilla.pngPilla, Mylla & Youlla.pngMylla & Youlla)[edit | edit source]

  1. Ranger feeds Fluid icon.pngMonofluid to level 10 = Mag icon.pngKalki, Estlla.pngEstlla PB, [5/0/0/5]
  2. Alternate between Fluid icon.pngTrifluids until just before DEF levels up, followed by MANY Tool icon.pngAntiparalysis to lower DEF. Repeat to level 35 = Mag icon.pngMitra, Pilla.pngPilla PB, [5/0/16/14]
  3. Mate icon.pngMonomates to level 49 - Mag icon.pngMitra, [5/14/16/14]
  4. Ranger GreenillBluefullPinkalOranWhitill (DEXPOW > MIND) feeds final Mate icon.pngMonomate to level 50 = Mag icon.pngKaitabha, Mylla & Youlla.pngMylla & Youlla PB, [5/15/16/14]
  5. Hunter/Force GreenillBluefullPinkalOranWhitill (DEX > POW > MIND) feeds any single item (Fluid icon.pngDifluid is fine) = Mag icon.pngGaruda, [5/15/16/14]
  6. Use Tool icon.pngHeaven Striker Coat = Mag icon.pngStriker Unit, [5/15/16/14]
  7. Fluid icon.pngDifluids to level 200 = Mag icon.pngStriker Unit, [5/15/16/164]

For comparison, we can check the Feeding Cycles, Minutes, and Meseta used between builds:

  • Plan 1 total: 291 Feeding Cycles, 1018.5 Minutes, 325,420 Meseta
  • Plan 2 total: 413 Feeding Cycles, 1445.5 Minutes, 401,110 Meseta

(Mag plans created with Magatama)

RAmarl Builds and Stat Progression[edit | edit source]

Important Stats Only Material Plan, Fast and Easy MIND Striker Unit[edit | edit source]

5/7/34/154 Striker Unit mag.

(Min-Max materials will only be slightly quicker to max MST, with an additional 39 Mind materials = 78 MST. around 10-25 levels in early Ultimate when it is very quick to level up already)

  • by level 14, equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) [572 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 42, equip HS [695 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 80, equip HS [890 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 105, equip HS [1031 MST (RAmarl max)]: Plan link
  • by level 130, ATA+MST capped (Note that she only has 830 ATP at this point, -315 from her cap--Demon's is still effective at least) [1031 MST (RAmarl max)]: Plan link
  • by level 199 with Unit icon.pngV101, Unit icon.pngAdept (potentially prohibitively expensive), and 2x Unit icon.pngHeavenly/Powers she can barely cap ATP while maintaining capped ATA and far overcapped MST (+216 MST overcapped) [1031 MST, capped]: Plan link
    • sorta irrelevant; at this point you should be using something much closer to the current guide-suggested mag stats with more POW and DEX

Important Stats Only Materials Plan, RAmarl min-max Striker Unit[edit | edit source]

5/149/46/0 mag.

aims to max ATP and ATA early, does not max MST, DFP, or EVP at level 200

  • by level 7, equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) [231 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 35, equip HS [359 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 85, cap ATA (without v101) [557 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 139 cap ATP+ATA [756 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 194 cap MST, far overcapped ATP (+151 ATP overcapped), -3.1ATA from max with V101, V801, 2 H/Minds, and Red Ring [1031 MST, capped]: Plan link
  • by level 200, ATP+ATA capped. requires 2x Heavenly/Minds to cap MST [1031 MST, capped]: Plan link

Max Stat Materials Plan, RAmarl min-max Striker Unit[edit | edit source]

5/149/46/0 mag, same as ISO.

aims to max ATP+ATA+MST at level 200 with 2 free unit slots and extra mats dumped into Defense

  • by level 7, equip HS (no Heavenly/Battle speed) [309 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 35, equip HS [437 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 85, cap ATA (same as Important Stats Only above) [635 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 161, cap MST [1031 MST, capped]: Plan link
  • (requires an expensive Adept) by level 167, cap ATP+ATA [922 MST]: Plan link
  • by level 187, cap ATP+ATA+MST with V101, V801, Adept, Centurion/Ability, and Red Ring [1031 MST, capped]: Plan link
  • by level 200, cap ATP+ATA+MST with only V101, V801, and Red Ring [1031 MST, capped]: Plan link


Credit for this information and guide goes to Thunder