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(global estimate changed 1/500,000 -> 1/800,000 with some math on global kill count (accounting for enemy DAR) and estimating that non-set item boxes opened are somewhere between: conservatively equal to 1/3 total enemies killed (1/785k global rate) or ((probably overestimated to be safe)) up to 3x total enemies killed (1/916k global rate)) |
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Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas. | Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas. | ||
In the areas where the level 30 technique drops, there is a 0.1% chance of | In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a {{Note|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%|0.1%}} chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a {{Note|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11%|10%}} chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30. | ||
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On average across all drops generated that can potentially be a technique, the drop rate for a level 30 technique is approximately 1/800,000. | |||
==Drop charts== | |||
===Offensive techniques=== | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;" | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
| | !rowspan="2"|Technique | ||
! | !rowspan="1" colspan="3"|Area(s) | ||
!Episode 1 | |- | ||
!Episode 2 | !rowspan="1"|Episode 1 | ||
!Episode 4 | !rowspan="1"|Episode 2 | ||
!rowspan="1"|Episode 4 | |||
|- | |- | ||
! || || || | ! || || || | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Foie}} | |||
|Ruins 2 | |[[Ruins 2]] | ||
|VR Temple Alpha | |[[VR Temple Alpha]] | ||
| - | | - | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Barta}} | |||
|Mine 1 | |[[Mine 1]] | ||
|VR Spaceship Beta | |[[VR Spaceship Beta]] | ||
|Crater (Western Route) | |[[Crater (Western Route)]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Zonde}} | |||
|Mine 2 | |[[Mine 2]] | ||
|Mountain Area | |[[Mountain Area]] | ||
|Crater Interior | |[[Crater Interior]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Gifoie}} | |||
|Ruins 1 | |[[Ruins 1]] | ||
|VR Temple Beta | |[[VR Temple Beta]] | ||
| - | | - | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Gibarta}} | |||
|Cave 3 | |[[Cave 3]] | ||
|Jungle Area North | |[[Jungle Area (North)]] | ||
|Crater (Southern Route) | |[[Crater (Southern Route)]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Gizonde}} | |||
|Ruins 1 | |[[Ruins 1]] | ||
|Seaside Area;<br>Central Control Area | |[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]] | ||
|Subterranean Desert 1 | |[[Subterranean Desert 1]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Rafoie}} | |||
|Mine 2 | |[[Mine 2]] | ||
|VR Spaceship Alpha | |[[VR Spaceship Alpha]] | ||
|Crater (Eastern Route) | |[[Crater (Eastern Route)]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Rabarta}} | |||
|Mine 1 | |[[Mine 1]] | ||
|Jungle Area East | |[[Jungle Area (East)]] | ||
|Crater (Northern Route) | |[[Crater (Northern Route)]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left; white-space:nowrap; min-width:80px"|{{Razonde}} | |||
|Ruins 2 | |[[Ruins 2]] | ||
|Seabed Upper | |[[Seabed Upper Levels]] | ||
|Subterranean Desert 2 | |[[Subterranean Desert 2]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Grants}} | |||
|Ruins 3 | |[[Ruins 3]] | ||
|Seabed Lower Levels;<br>Control Tower | |[[Seabed Lower Levels]];<br>[[Control Tower]] | ||
|Subterranean Desert 3 | |[[Subterranean Desert 3]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Megid}} | |||
| - | | - | ||
|Seabed Lower Levels;<br>Control Tower | |[[Seabed Lower Levels]];<br>[[Control Tower]] | ||
|Subterranean Desert 3 | |[[Subterranean Desert 3]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Recovery and Support techniques=== | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;" | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
| | !rowspan="2"|Techniques | ||
! | !rowspan="1" colspan="3"|Area(s) | ||
!Episode 1 | |- | ||
!Episode 2 | !rowspan="1"|Episode 1 | ||
!Episode 4 | !rowspan="1"|Episode 2 | ||
!rowspan="1"|Episode 4 | |||
|- | |- | ||
! || || || | ! || || || | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Resta}}<br>{{Anti}} (7) | |||
|Cave 3;<br>Mine;<br>Ruins | |[[Cave 3]];<br>[[Mine]];<br>[[Ruins]] | ||
| | |[[Central Control Area]] (All);<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]] | ||
|Crater (South, North, Interior);<br>Subterranean Desert | |[[Crater]] ([[Crater#Southern Route|South]], [[Crater#Northern Route|North]], [[Crater#Interior|Interior]]);<br>[[Subterranean Desert]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|style="text-align:left"|{{Shifta}}<br>{{Deband}}<br>{{Jellen}}<br>{{Zalure}} | |||
| | |[[Ruins]] | ||
| | |[[Seaside Area]];<br>[[Central Control Area]];<br>[[Seabed]];<br>[[Control Tower]] | ||
| | |[[Subterranean Desert]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Drop rates== | |||
In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an [[Item box]] on a specific floor: | |||
# The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than [[Tools|Tool]] (ex: the quest [[Lost HEAT SWORD]] contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the 2nd and 3rd roll). | |||
# The Item box fails to roll its designated rare drop. | |||
# The Item box must roll to drop a Tool ({{Note|10/100|10%}} chance). | |||
# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note|1000/10000|10%}} chance). | |||
# The Technique Disk must roll as this technique ({{Note|1/1000. For Rafoie and Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%|0.1%}} chance on the floor where the level 30 technique is available). | |||
# The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance|10%}} chance). | |||
In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from a [[Monsters|Monster]] on a specific floor, the following rolls must occur: | |||
First, an item is dropped and is a Tool: | |||
# The [[Drop anything rate]] roll succeeds (variable per enemy). | |||
# The [[Rare drop rate]] roll {{Note|Very high RDR (1/1.14, 1/2, 1/3.2, 1/4, 1/8) rare enemy drops are not negligible and affect the final rate significantly|fails}} (variable per enemy per [[Section IDs|Section ID]]). | |||
# (During [[Easter event|Easter]], [[Anniversary event|Anniversary]], [[Halloween event|Halloween]], or [[Christmas event|Christmas]] [[events]]) The [[Tools#Event_items|Event Item]] roll fails (variable per event item). | |||
# The [[Music disks|Music disk]] roll fails (<code>1/600</code> from any monster). | |||
# The roll between {{Meseta}}, a [[Tools|Tool]], or the monster's [[Item drops#Set drops|set drop]] is a Tool (<code>1/3</code>). | |||
Next, the Tool is a Technique Disk, is an eligible attack Technique on this specific floor, and is level 30: | |||
# The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk ({{Note|1000/10000|10%}} chance). | |||
# The Technique Disk must roll as this attack technique ({{Note|1/1000. For Rafoie or Zonde in Mine 2: 1/744 or approximately 0.134%|0.1%}} chance on the specific floor where the level 30 attack technique is available). | |||
# The Technique Disk must roll as level 30 from the range of levels ({{Note|1/10. For Megid: 1/9 or approximately 11.11% chance|10%}} chance). | |||
The final rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box on the floor. | |||
Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the approximate rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster on the floor. | |||
Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate. | |||
: ''See also: [[Techniques#Technique%20disks%20drop%20table|Technique disks drop table]] and [[item drops]]. | |||
{{Techs}} | {{Techs}} | ||
{{Guides}} | {{Guides}} | ||
[[Category:Guides]] | [[Category:Guides]] |
Latest revision as of 19:11, 6 November 2024
Level 30 techniques drop on Ultimate difficulty only, and only in specific areas.
In the areas where the level 30 attack technique drops, typically there is a 0.1% chance of this technique dropping instead of a different technique and a 10% chance for the dropped technique's level to be 30.
On average across all drops generated that can potentially be a technique, the drop rate for a level 30 technique is approximately 1/800,000.
Drop charts[edit | edit source]
Offensive techniques[edit | edit source]
Recovery and Support techniques[edit | edit source]
Techniques | Area(s) | ||
---|---|---|---|
Episode 1 | Episode 2 | Episode 4 | |
Resta Anti (7) |
Cave 3; Mine; Ruins |
Central Control Area (All); Seabed; Control Tower |
Crater (South, North, Interior); Subterranean Desert |
Shifta Deband Jellen Zalure |
Ruins | Seaside Area; Central Control Area; Seabed; Control Tower |
Subterranean Desert |
Drop rates[edit | edit source]
In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from an Item box on a specific floor:
- The Item box must not be designated to drop a specific set item or set item type other than Tool (ex: the quest Lost HEAT SWORD contains 55 non-set Box, 2 set Box (Moon Atomizer), 2 set Box (Weapon), and 5 set Box (Tool). Any non-set Item box must succeed all of the following rolls. Any set Item box of type Box (Tool) skips the 2nd and 3rd roll).
- The Item box fails to roll its designated rare drop.
- The Item box must roll to drop a Tool (10% chance).
- The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk (10% chance).
- The Technique Disk must roll as this technique (0.1% chance on the floor where the level 30 technique is available).
- The Technique must roll as level 30 from the range of levels (10% chance).
In order to calculate the drop rate of a level 30 attack technique from a Monster on a specific floor, the following rolls must occur:
First, an item is dropped and is a Tool:
- The Drop anything rate roll succeeds (variable per enemy).
- The Rare drop rate roll fails (variable per enemy per Section ID).
- (During Easter, Anniversary, Halloween, or Christmas events) The Event Item roll fails (variable per event item).
- The Music disk roll fails (
1/600
from any monster). - The roll between Meseta, a Tool, or the monster's set drop is a Tool (
1/3
).
Next, the Tool is a Technique Disk, is an eligible attack Technique on this specific floor, and is level 30:
- The Tool must roll as a Technique Disk (10% chance).
- The Technique Disk must roll as this attack technique (0.1% chance on the specific floor where the level 30 attack technique is available).
- The Technique Disk must roll as level 30 from the range of levels (10% chance).
The final rate for a level 30 attack technique disk is 1/1,000,000 from any non-set Item box on the floor.
Coincidentally, 1/1,000,000 is also the approximate rate for the level 30 attack technique disk from any 30% DAR monster on the floor.
Monsters with higher DAR will have an increased overall rate while monsters with lower DAR will have a decreased overall rate.
- See also: Technique disks drop table and item drops.
Techniques | |
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Simple | Foie • Barta • Zonde |
Normal | Gifoie • Gibarta • Gizonde |
Hard | Rafoie • Rabarta • Razonde • Grants • Megid |
Recovery | Resta • Anti • Reverser |
Support | Shifta • Deband • Jellen • Zalure • Ryuker |
Information | Techniques • Level 30 techniques |